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Mar 20, 2018 18:20:35 GMT 10, Post #14468
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Mar 24, 2018 9:41:33 GMT 10, Post #14805
Post by davidm on Mar 24, 2018 9:41:33 GMT 10
No one running nitrogen?
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Mar 24, 2018 10:57:09 GMT 10, Post #14809
Post by biggusrdevus on Mar 24, 2018 10:57:09 GMT 10
Nup, NFI, don't run it and no plans to.
As per the linked thread, Comrade Bribie did once but AFAIK he's bailed on that now, I know of no one else that's tried it.
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Mar 24, 2018 11:05:46 GMT 10, Post #14811
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Post by Grott on Mar 24, 2018 11:05:46 GMT 10
To be honest I don’t think it’s worth all the cost and fuss for the general home brewer unless the main consumption is stout. The reason I say this as many are finding great success with co2, flow control taps and the stout nozzles. Including myself.    best image hosting free |
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Post by Bribie on Mar 24, 2018 13:14:52 GMT 10
I had good fun with nitro, but at the end of the day I wasn't brewing enough suitable beers to justify renting a separate bottle that didn't last as long as CO2 (nitro mix is compressed gas as opposed to the much denser liquid CO2). On my last house move the removalists wouldn't accept gas bottles and the car was already full with 4 swap and go bottles and the CO2 ten kilo bottle, so I handed the nitro back into BOQ.
I ended up selling the reg and the tap and, as Grott posted, a stout nozzle on an Intertap does a pretty equivalent job.
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Mar 24, 2018 18:33:34 GMT 10, Post #14883
Post by davidm on Mar 24, 2018 18:33:34 GMT 10
Let me know if I'm understanding the advice so far correctly: Nitrogen / stout gas let's you do higher carbonation / smaller bubbles to give you a creamier mouthfeel? But, you can still achieve these with CO2 and a proper stout tap with the proper nozzle? The reason we started considering it was that my missus was keen to look into cold brew coffee, and apparently nitrogen is the ducks nuts for that. Anyone able to advise if we would get a similar result using CO2 and stout tap? madpierre06 are you able to comment on the coffee side of things? Edit: The 'proper' stout tap would involve flow control I'm assuming |
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Mar 24, 2018 18:50:44 GMT 10, Post #14886
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Post by Grott on Mar 24, 2018 18:50:44 GMT 10
Yes to last paragraph. I have two intertaps and both accept the stout nozzle. Only one tap is flow control and this really helps in providing that cream head etc. Can see no reason it wouldn’t work with coffee as it does with stout.
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Post by Stouter on Mar 24, 2018 19:22:23 GMT 10
+1 for the flow control and stout spout. The head comes out nice and creamy, and I even manage to can a bit of the cascading effect.
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Mar 24, 2018 20:10:18 GMT 10, Post #14896
Post by madpierre06 on Mar 24, 2018 20:10:18 GMT 10
Let me know if I'm understanding the advice so far correctly: Nitrogen / stout gas let's you do higher carbonation / smaller bubbles to give you a creamier mouthfeel? But, you can still achieve these with CO2 and a proper stout tap with the proper nozzle? The reason we started considering it was that my missus was keen to look into cold brew coffee, and apparently nitrogen is the ducks nuts for that. Anyone able to advise if we would get a similar result using CO2 and stout tap? madpierre06 are you able to comment on the coffee side of things? Edit: The 'proper' stout tap would involve flow control I'm assuming Never considered it mate, something to look into. My main preferences are short black, latte (and all related cousins,), cold drip, syphon, aeropress. |
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Mar 24, 2018 20:24:41 GMT 10, Post #14898
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Post by madpierre06 on Mar 24, 2018 20:24:41 GMT 10
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Mar 25, 2018 8:47:08 GMT 10, Post #14909
Post by Grott on Mar 25, 2018 8:47:08 GMT 10
Yes to last paragraph. I have two intertaps and both accept the stout nozzle. Only one tap is flow control and this really helps in providing that cream head etc. Can see no reason it wouldn’t work with coffee as it does with stout. Also if you don’t have a flow control tap consider the adapter. I have this on my esky set up and just tighten the grub screw when you have it right for the particular keg/brew. |
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Mar 25, 2018 9:02:48 GMT 10, Post #14910
Post by davidm on Mar 25, 2018 9:02:48 GMT 10
Yes to last paragraph. I have two intertaps and both accept the stout nozzle. Only one tap is flow control and this really helps in providing that cream head etc. Can see no reason it wouldn’t work with coffee as it does with stout. Also if you don’t have a flow control tap consider the adapter. I have this on my esky set up and just tighten the grub screw when you have it right for the particular keg/brew. This will be part of a totally new set up, so can choose any tap that suits. Might have to start a 'recommend a stout tap' thread  The normal taps will be perlick SS flow controls. Not sure if they do a stout tap? |
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Mar 25, 2018 9:22:42 GMT 10, Post #14912
Post by Grott on Mar 25, 2018 9:22:42 GMT 10
Perlick don’t have a changeable nozzle for stout but have a “stout creamer” on their newer models. Not sure how they go. Perhaps consider one tap as an intertap as you can also get a growler filler nozzle, real handy for mini kegs on the go.
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Mar 25, 2018 9:52:17 GMT 10, Post #14915
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Post by Grott on Mar 25, 2018 9:52:17 GMT 10
It would seem it’s just a foam pourer? I can do that anyway  |
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Mar 25, 2018 10:13:35 GMT 10, Post #14917
Post by davidm on Mar 25, 2018 10:13:35 GMT 10
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Post by davidm on Mar 25, 2018 14:54:08 GMT 10
Yeah, spotted those. Given I'm going to refurbish the keezer, and can justify more kegs for myself and the missus, was going to look at refillable bottles in the first instance as I'm not a huge fan of disposable bottles or mini kegs. |
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Post by Roo on Mar 25, 2018 15:55:23 GMT 10
I bought the smallish disposable N2 bottle from iKegger when I was making a 10 litre key of espresso maritini for a friend's significant birthday recently. I used the N2 and a Intertap stout tap to serve and it was a great success. I don't think CO2 would make sense at all for serving as it is much more soluble and would generate carbonic acid which wouldn't be desirable for cold brew coffee. I have recently upgraded my kegerator and will be adding a cold brew coffee tap soon. Rather than the small cold drip making 5-600ml at a time I have just got a large unit to make keg volumes in one go. I am yet to use it but it was highly recommended. alternativebrewing.com.au/product/brewista-cold-pro-complete-kit/ |
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Post by Grott on Mar 25, 2018 16:12:37 GMT 10
Sorry, the cost just for cold coffee on tap??(sure may be frothy and all foamy, so have a cappuccino  ) In any event I like my espresso at espresso temperature. |
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Mar 25, 2018 16:21:34 GMT 10, Post #14939
Post by davidm on Mar 25, 2018 16:21:34 GMT 10
I bought the smallish disposable N2 bottle from iKegger when I was making a 10 litre key of espresso maritini for a friend's significant birthday recently. I used the N2 and a Intertap stout tap to serve and it was a great success. I don't think CO2 would make sense at all for serving as it is much more soluble and would generate carbonic acid which wouldn't be desirable for cold brew coffee. I have recently upgraded my kegerator and will be adding a cold brew coffee tap soon. Rather than the small cold drip making 5-600ml at a time I have just got a large unit to make keg volumes in one go. I am yet to use it but it was highly recommended. alternativebrewing.com.au/product/brewista-cold-pro-complete-kit/Good point with the carbonic acid. We might not go quite to that scale, but then again if it means filling a keg at a time and the marginal cost isn't that much more, then we might consider it. |
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Mar 25, 2018 16:23:38 GMT 10, Post #14941
Post by davidm on Mar 25, 2018 16:23:38 GMT 10
Sorry, the cost just for cold coffee on tap??(sure may be frothy and all foamy, so have a cappuccino ) In any event I like my espresso at espresso temperature. You've clearly never had it on nitro! Ha ha, neither have I though. It's something my wife is keen on, and given the price we spend on brew gear, I'm happy to indulge her. If it means 2 stout taps and a nitro bottle, then all the better That kit is aimed at cafe's who sell it by the shot, so makes sense for them. Apparently it's good for cocktails as well. |
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Mar 25, 2018 16:30:40 GMT 10, Post #14943
Post by Grott on Mar 25, 2018 16:30:40 GMT 10
It's something my wife is keen on, Isnt it amazing, as soon as the missus is keen on something we want we are in like flynn. Tell her about the carbonic acid, “we have to buy this because..........”  |
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Mar 25, 2018 17:08:10 GMT 10, Post #14946
Post by Grott on Mar 25, 2018 17:08:10 GMT 10
I don't think CO2 would make sense at all for serving as it is much more soluble and would generate carbonic acid which wouldn't be desirable for cold brew coffee. Hold on, we drink soda water, soft drinks etc. This is not a factor in the coffee prcoess.  |
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Mar 25, 2018 17:57:57 GMT 10, Post #14951
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Post by Roo on Mar 25, 2018 17:57:57 GMT 10
I don't think CO2 would make sense at all for serving as it is much more soluble and would generate carbonic acid which wouldn't be desirable for cold brew coffee. Hold on, we drink soda water, soft drinks etc. This is not a factor in the coffee prcoess. From my limited testing and the wisdom of many others that have been doing this for some time it is an issue. It doesn't really compliment the flavour profile, it isn't a technical issue but one about taste. But as always, each to their own when it comes to taste.  |
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Mar 25, 2018 18:42:57 GMT 10, Post #14961
Post by Bribie on Mar 25, 2018 18:42:57 GMT 10
Guy in the YouTube needs Biofine.
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Mar 26, 2018 6:26:39 GMT 10, Post #14991
Post by daetripper on Mar 26, 2018 6:26:39 GMT 10
I run a nitro coffee tap currently, with a disposable bottle from a refrigeration shop. It is an awesome hot weather coffee! Haven't done a brew that justifies nitro yet. But as the cold weather moves in cold brew keg will be the stout keg. Using the stout intertap with the coffee at 50psi.
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Mar 26, 2018 9:52:18 GMT 10, Post #15012
Post by davidm on Mar 26, 2018 9:52:18 GMT 10
I run a nitro coffee tap currently, with a disposable bottle from a refrigeration shop. It is an awesome hot weather coffee! Haven't done a brew that justifies nitro yet. But as the cold weather moves in cold brew keg will be the stout keg. Using the stout intertap with the coffee at 50psi. How much mileage do you get out of a disposable bottle? |
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Mar 26, 2018 13:13:27 GMT 10, Post #15033
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Post by daetripper on Mar 26, 2018 13:13:27 GMT 10
Not really sure, had a leak and just dispensed a single keg, but this bottle is still going and probably dispensed 3/4 of a keg so far.
I got it from Actrol.
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Post by kegs on Apr 30, 2018 15:09:25 GMT 10
i brought my nitogen bottle from speedgas (about $220) its swap and go bottle comes full, i got 30/70 co2/nitogen mix, you need a nitro regulater you can change the steam on a keg king reg to nitrogen, reg and steam about $100 or harris nitrogen reg $180 you will need nitro tap (it has a plate in the spout with 4 pin holes) inter tap has a nitro spout that can be interchange with normal co2 tap i carb my beer about 25% with normal co2 then i connect nitrogen when serving , refill cost $80 RA Didds mobile guy wanted $120 i got my refill though RA Dibbs and sons Contact Us 76 Pentex St, Salisbury QLD 4107 Phone (07) 3274 5709 E-mail www.radibbs.com.au Message [email protected] |
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Apr 30, 2018 15:20:38 GMT 10, Post #18439
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Post by davidm on Apr 30, 2018 15:20:38 GMT 10
i brought my nitogen bottle from speedgas (about $220) its swap and go bottle comes full, i got 30/70 co2/nitogen mix, you need a nitro regulater you can change the steam on a keg king reg to nitrogen, reg and steam about $100 or harris nitrogen reg $180 you will need nitro tap (it has a plate in the spout with 4 pin holes) inter tap has a nitro spout that can be interchange with normal co2 tap i carb my beer about 25% with normal co2 then i connect nitrogen when serving , refill cost $80 RA Didds mobile guy wanted $120 i got my refill though RA Dibbs and sons Contact Us 76 Pentex St, Salisbury QLD 4107 Phone (07) 3274 5709 E-mail www.radibbs.com.au Message [email protected]Good info, thanks. I’ll get onto them and see if they will fill a standard co2 bottle. My understanding is that they’re compatible uses. I do have a couple of the refs laying around that I can fit the new nut onto to convert to nitro , so covered there. |
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