That makes a lot of sense. I know I'll go for something like that if I'm going to be drinking with customers for a long period as it's easier to keep a clear head (no pun intended), while still drinking something that looks like beer.
I often wonder whether I'm a snobby wanker when I tell people that Tooheys Extra Dry tastes like dry farts in a bottle. Then I take a step back and consider all the mass-produced lagers that I happily drink, because they're refreshing. There's megaswill (dry farts in a bottle) and then there's bland lager/beer with low character that's just easy to drink. I'm a huge fan of the latter
Post by Lord Raja Goomba I on Sept 26, 2019 11:06:21 GMT 10
When one first takes up brewing and starts doing it well, one develops a very snobby attitude and can inflict that on all around "ooh, you have megaswill, you poor thing. I'm sorry, I'd rather drink water" and can become a real social pariah.
The johnny come lately craft beer drinkers who took it up on the hipster upswing are even worse. They think that because they like hoppy beers, they're an expert and are even more condescending to the average punter. They also get quite annoyed when you know more than they do (even overhearing a conversation with a knowledgeable bartender or brewer "I like kettle sours and they're easier to brew on standard equipment, but they can be one-dimensional compared to a Brett or mix ferment" or "I really prefer dropping galaxy late in the boil but I'm not a fan of dry hopping it, Mosaic does better" leaves them quietly seething). They are the modern day wine snob sniffing and swirling their glasses.
My favourite megaswill is Boags Draught and Heineken. Really good to have a megaswill to cleanse the palate and reset the tastebuds. I spent winter between the caseswap and my beers drinking a high proportion of porters, stouts, BIG beers like RIS and Wheatwine. Went to HK and drank Carlsberg BUL, San Miguel (far nicer there than in other places) and the like for the most part. And frankly, it was exactly what my poor taste buds needed.
Industrial - yes. But it does take some skill and equipment to produce that sort of consistency. I can't even replicate my good stuff-ups half the time.
Went to HK and drank Carlsberg BUL, San Miguel (far nicer there than in other places) and the like for the most part. And frankly, it was exactly what my poor taste buds needed.
Years ago I went to a few parties on foreign ships docked at the local harbour. A large portion of the crew were always Filipino. Anyway I'd tried the San Miguel we get here ( brewed under licence?) and it was okay but nothing special, but the San Miguel they had on the ship was brewed in the Philippines and a far superior drop. Their beers didn't have stick on labels like they do here but printed straight onto the bottle.
There are plenty of really good craft beers out there and there are others that i'd much prefer a VB, New or Fourex over. One example of a " craftyish" beer in the latter category would be the much loved by many, Coopers Pale/Sparkling ale. To me they both taste like moldy, musty grain fermented at high temp and a load of raw bread yeast, mixed with fizzy water. Give me a bottle of VB any day . There, I've said it
All inspiring enough to make beer yourself. It was something more of the past now but that new guy walks into the home brew store and says he wants to make his own beer. Real beer though. So the store attendee asks what is real beer to him? Like real beer like Vic Bitter etc...
Still inspiring to me when you brew with grains you can make anything of your own personal design. Yet the home brew version is so much better it then graduates that brewer into the Craft world of beer that seems endless. Mistakes, worts and all.
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Context is everything. This was in some restaurant in Saigon last Christmas. The food was amazing, fresh, plentiful and cheap. Bui Tuoi translates to fresh beer from memory. Ignore the Tiger logo on the glass, this was the local stuff. Forget how travel shows / bloggers / Lonley Planet 'guides' romanticize it, its bland as shit, really. If I saw it at the local, I'd reach over it to buy Corona. However , it was literally cheaper than a bottle of water, certainly 'fresh' served by the liter in that chilly aluminum growler and we'd just trekked back through the heat from the Independence palace. I exited the premises with two liters of it sloshing around in my guts and a lovely beer glow. Thats what its all about.
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I brew megaswill and do it quite well. Great skill to have. If you can brew megaswill, megaclean and mega-tasteless and do that as an all malt beer from Australian malt I think it's the epitome of brewing skills. It takes time and patience but - if you can brew it then you can brew pretty well anything. That's my opinion anyway and I'm sticking by it because it has helped me improve my brewing skills to be able to level that much attention to detail into all my beers. I am still learning and still improving and I still have a way to go yet but learning to brew a bland lager is a great learning curve.
I love brewing Australian megaswill. I "up" my gravity to around 6% ABV because at my age it's nice to have a session without drinking so much fluid that you're up for a piss at 1 am, then 4 am etc . But you really can't beat simple malt, some sugaz, simple hop addition and a good lager yeast. The ultimate expression of SMASH.
As labels says it's a good discipline for mashing, boiling and fermenting and realising that if you come off the rails in any way you can't just throw some crystal or some Amarillo at it to hide a deficiency.
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