We seem to have moved on from IPAs to sours....should the Sours be allowed to have 3 per cat?
Food for thought I hope.
Here's my personal thought on sour beers (NB: Lower-case "s"):
Oh, & NO! De-rigeur should not dictate available entry numbers into a competition. Over the years (going WAAAAY back & in turn, it was Wheat beers, Belgians, APA's, IPA's & now those godawful, emetic sours & now NEIPA's).
You mentioned carpet-bombing.......?
Last Edit: Apr 28, 2019 17:51:56 GMT 10 by MartinOC
I get ( and agree with) the need to have some regulation to stop the carpet bombing.
However in a community where we encourage brewers to be creative, and to keep being to home their skills... Are we stifling that some what.
I've personally had years that I had 3 entries for a category and had to decide which one to leave out.
I believe that plenty of is brew in waves of styles....eg a run of brews of the same style in order to refine our processes and recipes.
But to far back IPAs were flavour of the month and everyone was planning with IPA recipes. So much so we ended up with a comp just for that style.
Since that time other fad styles become popular amongst brewers.
The point is does the 2per category,1per style rules mean some of the better and more creative brews don't get entered???
I wonder if a loosening of the numbers you can enter (not saying unlimited) would increase participation and entry numbers?
Alternatively can comp organiser adjust limits per Style based be on an awareness of popular trends?
Eg. We seem to have moved on from IPAs to sours....should the Sours be allowed to have 3 per cat?
Food for thought I hope.
I disagree. An important factor not discussed so far is consistency in judging. The easiest way to do this is to have the same judges judge all the beers in that category or style. If there are too many beers, this simply isn't possible. The limits on number of entries per style and category are a good way to help with this, but even then popular styles can still get split over tables which isn't ideal. Makes judging on the day that much harder.
Creativity requires editing and restraint, as much as it needs encouragement and freedom.
Bigger comps in melb need judges more than they need entries anyway.
Totally agree. This rule forces you to think about what you're brewing for a comp and for you to really choose and submit your best beers. I've left beers out of comps for this reason, but it is what it is. For mine, the idea of submitting beers to a comp is to put my best foot forward and really try to demonstrate what I'm capable of as a brewer, and get feedback on that capability. If you've got a fair to middling beer that you want feedback on, take it to your club. Save the comps for your best beers.
And anyway, depending on the beer there are creative interpretations of the categories that will still let you enter the beer elsewhere and get feedback on it. The Fruit/Vegetable categories are handy this way.
NSW still holds the highest entry number for a state comp at 570 i think it was. also currently hold all the qualified mead judges as well. 11 at last count
Vicbrew 2015 - 584 entries from 143 entrants
Last-minute no-shows by some judges & stewards made for a very "interesting" weekend & some creative decision-making.
More entry rule changes had to be made.......
My point is relevant to any large scale competition that relies on volunteer judges (and stewards and other behind the scenes workers), regardless of state. Most of them are not trying to boost entry numbers - just properly manage the ones they have. Trying to follow the trends and allow extra entries for styles in vogue would be an absolute nightmare, I reckon.
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