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May 20, 2019 23:12:48 GMT 10, Post #52135
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Post by tony121 on May 20, 2019 23:12:48 GMT 10
Thanks gents. I’ll give Brewfather a go, but I’m not one for change so may end up staying with Beersmith. Shall see.
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Post by djl3thal on May 21, 2019 8:29:35 GMT 10
How is Brewfathers water estimates? As mentioned in other threads BeerSmith seems to over predict mash pH dropping and recently I’ve found similar with FG predictions so have disabled to adjustment based on mash temp and it appears to be more accurate, regardless of my actual mash temp, wtf?!
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Post by djl3thal on May 21, 2019 8:30:06 GMT 10
Apologies for the extended brain sentence 😲
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Post by Lord Raja Goomba I on May 21, 2019 10:47:22 GMT 10
Had a look at brewfather and not real impressed. Too much data to put in before coming up with a recipe (very basic grain types and I don't feel like coming up with the stats on my grain at the drop of a hat). At least with wort or beermate, the basics are in place and the tweaking is minimal.
I will say though, that it appears as though brewfather is quite customisable. I just thought that with another 'web-based one' coming on, that there would be something different or more streamlined. Something to say "this is what we give extra". But no.
And no no-chill support.
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Post by frodaddy on May 21, 2019 11:17:43 GMT 10
I was annoyed about this as well. The work around is to add 0.01g of hops as a hopstand for the length you want as no chill.
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Post by Lord Raja Goomba I on May 21, 2019 11:52:23 GMT 10
I tried it over the weekend, as i wanted some quick figures out. Getting the thing signed in and base malts in took longer than needed, so I chucked it into wort.
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May 21, 2019 12:14:14 GMT 10, Post #52151
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Post by nosco on May 21, 2019 12:14:14 GMT 10
The main reason I'm using it is because it controls my Smartpid over the net. Works a treat. It's being updated all the time and has excellent tech support via FB but agreed it has a wsy to go in some aspects, like ingredients. Never heard of Wort.
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Post by djl3thal on May 21, 2019 18:00:51 GMT 10
I’ve found a lot of BS3 grain stats to be off anyway so needed reviewing and tweaking
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Post by gloveski on May 21, 2019 19:09:01 GMT 10
Had a look at brewfather and not real impressed. Too much data to put in before coming up with a recipe (very basic grain types and I don't feel like coming up with the stats on my grain at the drop of a hat). At least with wort or beermate, the basics are in place and the tweaking is minimal. I will say though, that it appears as though brewfather is quite customisable. I just thought that with another 'web-based one' coming on, that there would be something different or more streamlined. Something to say "this is what we give extra". But no. And no no-chill support. If it’s missing any grain types you use shoot him an email , he will sort it out . Interesting I have had no issues with grains but mainly use Gladfield |
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Post by nosco on May 21, 2019 19:30:38 GMT 10
I just remembered if you import a recipe from BS into BF it will import the ingredients
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Post by MTB on May 21, 2019 21:31:28 GMT 10
I just remembered if you import a recipe from BS into BF it will import the ingredients Yup I imported all of my recipes from BS and it brought in the ingredients with it. Still yet to try BF out beside BS on a brewday, hopefully getting one or two of those next week |
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Post by ABG on May 22, 2019 11:04:09 GMT 10
How is Brewfathers water estimates? As mentioned in other threads BeerSmith seems to over predict mash pH dropping and recently I’ve found similar with FG predictions so have disabled to adjustment based on mash temp and it appears to be more accurate, regardless of my actual mash temp, wtf?! My pH normally finishes a touch high compared to what Brewfather predicts (it it predicts 5.3, I'll have 5.45 or so, for example). Everything else was always pretty much spot on while I had my old Robobrew 35L rig. I'm still dialing in the numbers on my Brewzilla 65, but last brew was within 2 points of the expected OG. My boil off rates were a little bit out - hopefully next brew will be bang on. |
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Post by tony121 on May 30, 2019 12:05:27 GMT 10
So I've been playing with Brewfather a little and not convinced I should change yet as I really don't have a need. That is not to say it won't happen in the future.
Anyway back to Beersmith 3, I've noticed that commentary early on around the integrated water additions were positive, however now it appears a few have mentioned negative results in various threads. Can anyone elaborate a bit more on this?
Edit: To give some context, I use BS2 (as mentioned previously) in conjunction with Bru'n Water to sort out ph & additions. Happy to continue this way but was looking at BS3 to consolidate.
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Post by djl3thal on May 30, 2019 19:46:07 GMT 10
If planning to consolidate for water, forget BS. BS2 didn’t really get much extra when moving to BS3 other than an erroneous water tab.
Stick to BS2+Bru’n water or jump to BF is my 2c
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Post by MTB on May 30, 2019 21:04:07 GMT 10
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Post by tony121 on May 31, 2019 16:16:45 GMT 10
If planning to consolidate for water, forget BS. BS2 didn’t really get much extra when moving to BS3 other than an erroneous water tab. Stick to BS2+Bru’n water or jump to BF is my 2c thanks mate. Bit the bullet and downloaded the BS3 trial version late yesterday and spent a bit of time playing around. Have to agree that it’s not worth the upgrade. Think I’ll save my US$14.99 and continue with BS2 and Bru’n |
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May 31, 2019 16:17:06 GMT 10, Post #52786
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Post by tony121 on May 31, 2019 16:17:06 GMT 10
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But that's not nice so Merry Christmas to you to (With reservations 
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But that's not nice so Merry Christmas to you to (With reservations 
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